Goulds Sump Pump Not Running Continuity
- #1
Hi, I'm hoping someone can help. Recently, I did a whole lot of laundry and suddenly, my water pressure went done to nothing. (My well is 250 feet deep) The next day everything seemed fine, but I decided to call a pump professional just in case and seeing it hadn't been serviced in 5 years. Right from the start I didn't get a good feeling from this person. He filled the tanks pressure to 30 something lbs because it only had 10 in it. But then he starting saying that the amps were running at 17 when they should be running at 6. Now, I don't understand any of this stuff, but when he asked if my water pressure would change or turn off for a second then turn back off, I said no... because other than the other day, I have never had a problem. The next morning, I'm taking a shower and the water pressure is changing. Not a lot, but enough for me to think that this guy did something so he can charge me for a new pump and wire for $1150. Is there something I can check, before I call another pump professional? It's Gould's Pump Model V60. Please help.
Thanks
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- #3
Your low air pressure in the pressure tank was causing short cycling of the pump motor. That ruins motors and pressure tank bladders while causing a high electric bill.
The short cycling could prevent you from feeling/sensing a pressure change which you now feel/sense due to the pressure tank being set up properly based on your pressure switch settings; probably roughly 30/50. There should be 1-2 psi less air pressure than the cut in switch setting; 30.
Running out of water was probably due to the water level in the well falling to the inlet of the submersible pump in the well allowing it to suck air. That was caused by all the water you used for laundry. That is not good for a well or pump, so water conservation is a good idea. Especially if you are in a drought area.
If the problems are not prevented, expect the pump to quit. Its life has already been shortened. I suspect the pump guy told you that and gave you a quote and left. I also suspect you've had water since, so why are you wanting to contact another pump guy?
A V60 is a pressure tank, not a pump.
You won't get anything for the cable and pump unless you take it to a scrape yard but you won't get anywhere near BobNH's $100; even if you throw in the old pressure tank that may have a bad bladder.
- #5
Bob and Gary have pretty well covered your possible issues, and one of the simplest things you can do to verify one thing or another as being either okay or problematic is the testing already mentioned. The pump man did a good thing by pressurizing your tank and possibly adjusting pressures to extend the life of your pump, and now you can follow up be seeing how it performs. So, let a garden hose run outside and see how your pressure guage fluctuates and how long it takes to do that while the hose is running open, then see how long it takes to fill a pail and let these guys know what you have found out, along with whether or not you ever again lose all pressure.
- #8
GerryB said:
He probably didn't want to tell you that home inspectors know next to nothing about wells... and have a debate about it.
Usually you dopn't have to take the oring out if the o-ring is good. The use of any petroleum products ruins those o-rings and the plastic of the head and housing sump. Water is all that should be needed but vegetable oil works if you don't have food grade silicone grease. The cause of needing a lubricant is over tightening the sump.
He was adjusting the settings of the pressure switch and the air precharge pressure in the pressure tank. All good things and those things should be checked like every year or two. As we see your air pressure was way low and that ruins the pressure tank and pump motor.
So... if you have water now, you don't need anything else and the fluctuation in water pressure and flow is telling you the setup is finally correct; it's normal. So enjoy and budget for a new pump down the road a ways.
- #10
Go by your feelings! Some service people call themselves pump service people when in fact know very little about well pumps! Unless they are qualified Water Well/Pump "WWP" people. In Virginia and many other states the "WWP" on their license means they have taken a well drilling/pump installers examination. Not every plumber or electrician is qualified to service well pumps, but some are! I'd "Google" for a pump service person near your area, then give several a call and ask them your pump questions and you'll know from their answers whether you want them to service your pump system. In most states you can look up the license bureau and lookup the service person's license number to see what type of license they have.
DonL
Jack of all trades Master of one
- #13
Porky,
Here in Ct if a homeowner finds out you are not licensed, he doesn't have to pay the bill.
I have turned in one unlicensed guy to the licensing board but they do nothing, he is still out there selling his services...
The fact that you do not have a license does not necessarily mean that you do not know what you are doing.
It may mean that you do not have insurance, and that savings can be passed on to a customer.
Around here people are glad to pay workers that have a green card, and You would be hard pressed to keep up with the work they do. And they do it for a good price.
If you do not pay your bill, then expect them to come after you. They will make you pay, one way or another. Pulling the system out is the best way to get the attention of a none paying customer. At it is legal in most states.
Have Fun Everyone.
- #15
Yeah, but think of all the money they help save taxpayers by not bothering the inspectors.
DonL
Jack of all trades Master of one
- #16
lol
Most people want something for nothing, and they get exactly what they pay for.
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